Let's say that I am looking for a second postdoc. Let us stipulate that as a smart, DrugMonkey-trained bioscientist, I am making sure to check the status of a possible future PI's grants on CRISP.
Let us further suggest that this PI has one R01 that will last a while (but isn't on the stuff that really grabs me), and another R01 (on the stuff I love) that is due to expire in March of 2009.
How do I find out if this R01 is getting renewed? Would it already list an expiry date of 2014 if it had gotten renewed? Presumably by now the PI has heard back on the renewal, but would it be in CRISP already? I have every reason to think that this PI is deserving and has published enough to survive a competitive renewal. If it weren't that our banks are on fire, I would feel confident...but as it is...
(I should mention that I feel sure the PI would have applied to renew this R01. It's not a defunct part of the lab's activity.)
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It probably wouldn't show up in CRISP until the Notice of Grant Award is actually issued for the next competing interval. That is frequently only issued within a week or so of the actual start date.
OTOH, in this day and age it is also quite likely that the PI blew it, assumed s/he could get the renewal funded on fewer revision tries than it actually will take. Also, things are brutal enough that sometimes run of the mill productivity is no guarantee the grant will be scored favorably by study section.
so you may just have to contact the person and ask what they are working on these days...
Uh oh, this coupled with a dearth of recent posts gives me a not-so-fresh feeling.
Hope things are going ok!
Wait wait wait. My last comment was entirely too nice and touchy-feely.
Here's what I should have said:
Science is not a Care Bear's tea party.
:)
chill out. It often takes at least two tries and many of us go into no-cost extensions. If the PI is working in this area and publishing good stuff, the money will likely come.
Mark P
I disagree with the "chill out" suggestion. Post-docs need to do their due diligence and be sure that they are entering a lab that is going to have sufficient funds to support them and their research for the time it will reasonably take to complete a project.
I got that not-so-fresh Carebear feeling too. I hope you are happily eating tons of ice cream while scanning CRISP.
Everything's ok on the personal/professional front, whichever you may be concerned about....recent dearth more about vacation and return to work than anything. But we've been planning for a while on doing second postdocs elsewhere, and we're trying to find a town we're both happy to move to. Thus the due diligence, as CPP puts it. We'll go with a combination of rumor mill and waiting til March 31 to see what we learn....
yeah, good luck with that. due diligence and all that, keep in mind that everyone's EXISTING budgets have been cut, both public and private, and because of the way most universities work, they might find themselves in an unexpected (though no uncommon right now) financial hole. and they might not be totally up front with you about it. or they might be moving and not tell you about it. there are no sure bets when it comes to making deals with scientists.
good luck
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